Fines for log book violations

[n***@gmail.com]

Wrong on canadian regulations. Federal regulations state sign at the end. Provincial laws are different, but if your crossing the border as a federal carrier federal laws apply.

[richard]

Post by n***@gmail.com
Wrong on canadian regulations. Federal regulations state sign at the end. Provincial laws are different, but if your crossing the border as a federal carrier federal laws apply.

I don't think so.
If you are in Canada as an Anerican trycker, you comply with Canadian laws.
Used to be, that when you drove in Canada, you used a seperate log book.
For the Canadian log book, mark the first seven days as off duty.
For the US log book, mark off duty for the time in Canada.
Then turn both logs in to the company.
Or at least write "Canada" across the top of each page.

[Geezus H. Khryst]

Post by richard

Post by n***@gmail.com
Wrong on canadian regulations. Federal regulations state sign at the end.
Provincial laws are different, but if your crossing the border as a
federal carrier federal laws apply.

I don't think so.
If you are in Canada as an Anerican trycker, you comply with Canadian laws.
Used to be, that when you drove in Canada, you used a seperate log book.
For the Canadian log book, mark the first seven days as off duty.
For the US log book, mark off duty for the time in Canada.
Then turn both logs in to the company.
Or at least write "Canada" across the top of each page.

Just wondering.... is it painful to be that st00pid?

[Larry Sheldon]

Post by Geezus H. Khryst
Just wondering.... is it painful to be that st00pid?

I have no idea. Do tell, is it?

[T***@icloud.com]

Never Sign a Log Page Until It's Completed!

Why is that? Please explain.

Because when you sign you certify that all entries are true and correct. If you
have lied (now who would do anything like that?) or made and inadvertant false
entry, the cop can't cite you for falsifiying your log book. Usually a much
steeper fine than being behind or not having a log book.
HOWEVER, this does not apply if you run Canada, when driving in Canada, you
MUST sign the log book at the beginning of the day. $300.00 fine for not doing
this.
In addition, if you look at the DOT hand book, it says, and I have seen this
with my own eyes, that if your log book is behind, but you are current to the
previous six days, you MUST be given the opportunity to bring it up to date.
Look it up in your own DOT rule book so you know it is there and can use it if
you need it. Don't let some prick cop BS you on this point.

Oh God, another shithouse lawyer to tell us all the finer points of transportation law. Well, as per usual, he is wrong. A driver must have their log book current and record everything for each of the times they have a "change in duty status". If you completed a duty day and have not completed the log you will be cited for not having your log book current. What this person is confused about is the difference in not having you log current and signing it which can be construed as "making a false statement". This info can be found here - https://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/regulations/title49/part/395.8

Don't trust what you see here, what the guy I am answering says, hell, don't even trust what I say. Go to the regulations on the FMCSA website. Read them for yourself. DO NOT INTERPRET them. They are very literal. Black and White. Do what they state and you'll never have a problem.

[P***@yahoo.com]

Chuck,Chuck,Chuck......Where in the heck do you come up with all these
ideas??? You are so full of S___ I had to go out to the barn to get a
shovel. All I will say is this!!! Read 395.8 (d) (5) of FMCSR, if you know
what that is? And it clearly states that if you do what you just stated, I
as a Law enforcement official could charge you with I Quote from section
395.8 (e) Failure to complete the record of duty activities of these
sections and or making false reports in connection with such duty activities
shall make the Driver and or the Carrier liable to Prosecution. If you are
going to give advice, at least do your homework first!! Laws are not
thought up as you go along!!
That is all I have to say about that Issue.
Gunney

Never Sign a Log Page Until It's Completed!

Why is that? Please explain.

Because when you sign you certify that all entries are true and correct.

Oh really! ??
So an officer asks to see my logbook at, say, 1500 hours. I have it
completed current to my last change of duty status at, say 1300 hours
when I came off of lunch break. Complete with my signature where is is
required to be. There are no entried after 1300 hours .. the time of
my last change of duty. My signature denotes that I attest to the
accuracy of all entries on that sheet.
Now where are all these false entries that he's gonna cite me for?
There are none.

ARE YOU still on here after all these years? I just need information on the same topic

thanks,
P white

[7***@gmail.com]

You must only sign your pretrip at the start of your day . If you sign the hour of service part at the start of your day you can be fined